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  An anthropologist visits a JW community in Santa María Zapotitlán, Mexico

  by OrphanCrow in

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  dr. jena barchas-lichtenstein is an anthropologist who received her doctorate through ucla.. https://www.linkedin.com/pub/jena-barchas-lichtenstein/43/427/702.

  in 2013, barchas-lichtenstein submitted the paper "when the dead are resurrected, how are we going to speak to them?

  ": jehovah's witnesses and the use of indigenous languages in the globalizing textual community as a partial submission for her doctoral dissertation..

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  roberto avon

  Very interesting read even if I did not understand it 100% ( English is my 4th language ) and my first reaction is ; " How the hell can she be so smart and skilled and still be a Jw?" I think, though, it is unfair to say so because I was Catholic ( remember Galileo ??)  and still am superstitious ( black cats, ladders aso ). 

  If I could ever meet this lady I would ask her what is behind this mysterial language of the Jehovah's. When my wife told me she was a Jw and invited ( very bad ) me for a dinner with her family for the first time in my life i heard words as ; wordling, elder, overseer, meeting, assembly, pioneer, field service, and bla, bla, bla....

  
  
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  New Apostate: Tempest in a Teacup

  by Tempest in a Teacup in

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  first post on here.

  i've been lurking for 3-4 years and i mean i've been a mega lurker, doing marathon reading sessions for months or weeks.. sometimes i proceed by researching specific topics, or posters; other times just reading current discussions.

  i'm particularly fond of "old" post, i.e 10-12-15 years ago.. i have laughed, smiled, got mad, cried etc, just reading some threads here.. as you can see i suffer from some kind of "accute lurkitis".

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  roberto avon

  yes, good for you Tempest. I believe that there a lot of Jws like you.

  
  
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  New Apostate: Tempest in a Teacup

  by Tempest in a Teacup in

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  first post on here.

  i've been lurking for 3-4 years and i mean i've been a mega lurker, doing marathon reading sessions for months or weeks.. sometimes i proceed by researching specific topics, or posters; other times just reading current discussions.

  i'm particularly fond of "old" post, i.e 10-12-15 years ago.. i have laughed, smiled, got mad, cried etc, just reading some threads here.. as you can see i suffer from some kind of "accute lurkitis".

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  roberto avon

  FayeDunaway, I would immediately exclude Southern Europe, even if " we " have the pope we are fare ahead on for example North America concerning gay rights, euthanasia, abortion and death penalty.
  Most probably it is South America, if we check the yearbook 2015 we see that the biggest part of the increase of new Jws is in Latin Amrica and Usa ( mainly latino immigrants I guess ).
  It is up to the USA, like the cigarettes ( Philipp Morris ??) you started as first smoking, producing and selling them but also the first to realize it was bad and stopped smoking.
  Let us hope that somebody will stop this born in the Usa stuff, maybe  with the help of Irwin Zalkin and the american judges....
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  New Apostate: Tempest in a Teacup

  by Tempest in a Teacup in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  first post on here.

  i've been lurking for 3-4 years and i mean i've been a mega lurker, doing marathon reading sessions for months or weeks.. sometimes i proceed by researching specific topics, or posters; other times just reading current discussions.

  i'm particularly fond of "old" post, i.e 10-12-15 years ago.. i have laughed, smiled, got mad, cried etc, just reading some threads here.. as you can see i suffer from some kind of "accute lurkitis".

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  roberto avon

  It was very nice reading you and I am convinced that there are a lot of Jws like you, for example my wife. How else could an ex non practisant catholic live with her?

  
  
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  Prank call to Governing Body member Anthony Morris III gets through

  by Watchtower-Free in

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  alert..............alert.....breaking news .......... john cedars of jwsurvey has pranked called governing body member anthony morris iii at bethel .

  over 2 minutes of pranking .

  as i type he is editing the recording into a video .

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  roberto avon

  The only interesting thing was that ho could speak for a while to GB member and this will have some consequences for " some brothers " at Bethel. I don't see a winner or a looser.

  My personal opinion is that John Cedars is loosing credibility and his latest posts/ actions are full of anger, resentment and desire for vengeance

  How to blame him, he was convinced/ obliged by his mother to attend MTS ( a nonsense school ) and we know what happened, he lives in a strange country and is being shunned by his whole family.

  My sincere advice ; step out of this ex jw activity for a while and build a new live, go back to UK and try to get some real skills because you will get nowhere if you continue fighting like this against the Wts.
  
  
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  My mother says I should just DA already.

  by Julia Orwell in

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  cut the cord.

  sever all ties.

  start new.. and she's right.

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  roberto avon

  Hi Julia,

      try to focus on your real life and not to think about them ( easy to say ). It is not important wether you DA Or DF, important is that with your mind you are out of the cult. 

  What about your book, the opal ring, are you still writing? i am very interested because I wrote a book myself and I don't know what to do with it.....

  
  
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  Is Watchtower's stance against education only for North American witnesses

  by wannaexit in

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  i was reading on a european ex jw forum where some feel that watchtower's railing against higher education is primarily for north america issue.

  this is due that many in usa and canada leave home to leave on campus.

  it was mentioned that many young european jw attend universities and its not frowned on.. i found this odd because i heard what morris and losch said about education in italy.

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  roberto avon

  ancientofdays and wannaexit, thank you very much for welcoming me!

  Have a nice day and  buon pomeriggio!
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  Is Watchtower's stance against education only for North American witnesses

  by wannaexit in

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  i was reading on a european ex jw forum where some feel that watchtower's railing against higher education is primarily for north america issue.

  this is due that many in usa and canada leave home to leave on campus.

  it was mentioned that many young european jw attend universities and its not frowned on.. i found this odd because i heard what morris and losch said about education in italy.

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  roberto avon

  I live in Italy and I have read the italian link. I don't see a big difference between Italy and the States although there were a few positive comments of Jw's that were " allowed " to attend college but as I have read in some comments
  - it's very difficult to find a job in Italy and university give you much better chances ( maybe I should say GAVE )
  - it is true that distances in Italy are not comparable to the distances Usa so there is a good possibilty to find a university not too far from home
  - I think university is much cheaper in Italy
  
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  Up yours!!! Jw religion!!

  by Julia Orwell in

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  i just got a job teaching in a school run by moderate muslims.

  the students are muslim and do their prayers at school and have daily quran lessons.

  my job is to teach art, english literacy and literature, and history.

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  roberto avon

  Hi Julia, that's good for you! Hope you will enjoy yr new job. Keep us informed.
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  The King of the North is getting Angry...

  by rhodesboy in

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  this topic is of a theological nature.

  if you have some scriptural insight, please share.

  grievances are not welcome!.

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  roberto avon

  Nonsense! Who is north and who is south? Till there was a wall in Berlin we used to say east and west. This is really tipical

  JW blablabla but let me participate in this discussion. The king of the south is Islam and the kings of the north are Us and Russia.

  I know, also this is hilarious and blablabla, but AT LEAST GEOGRAPHICALLY CORRECT!!!!!!